Was Child Pornography found in Michael Jackson’s home?

Every once in a while the question pops up – did Michael Jackson own child pornography?

To begin, we need to clear something up. How do our lawmakers define child pornography? The paraphrased legal definition of child pornography is images of children engaged in sexual conduct[1]. Sexual Conduct includes penetration, masturbation, and lewd or lascivious sexual acts whether alone or with others.

That’s the legal definition. However, everyone has their own internal dictionary and for most people, the meaning of child porn would be much broader to include lascivious or suggestive nude pictures of children.

Nude images of children, on their own, are not classified as child porn even if they are suggestive, and are perfectly legal for pedophiles to own. For the layman, it’s difficult to understand why seemingly obscene images of children are legal, yet it’s a distinction that those who want to get around the law know only too well.

First, a bit of history. Up until the mid-70s, child pornography was legally available in the US. It’s not to say that people who were discovered to have owned such material weren’t viewed with suspicion, however facing jail if caught with such materials wasn’t a concern for them.

In 1977, after congressional hearings, the House passed the Kildee-Murphy Bill which prohibited the manufacture, distribution, and possession of child pornography.

In the late 80s State lawmakers began to pass their own laws prohibiting the making and distribution of images depicting children engaged in sex acts[2].

These new laws had the effect of, quite rightly, making criminals of those in possession of child abuse images. Most pedophiles didn’t want to risk being caught with illegal material, yet they still needed images of children to gratify their sexual desires. With images of nude children not engaged in sex being perfectly legal, pedophiles turned to other outlets for their titillation. Two safe avenues became prominent in the pre-Internet age – so called “art” books featuring images of naked children, and naturist magazines.

This brings us to the material found at Neverland in a search in late 1993. Jackson owned two books, as well as photos and magazines featuring nude images of children.

The two books were The Boy: A Photographic Essay and Boys Will Be Boys. These books are classic examples of the type of materials many pedophiles own according to Bill Dworin, a 34-year veteran of the LAPD who has investigated more than 4,000 sexual exploitation cases. “Pedophiles will frequently have this material available because they can obtain it legally, it’s not illegal to possess”. [3].

The Boy: A Photographic Essay is a book compiled by two known pedophiles, Martin Swithinbank and Ronald Drew, under the pseudonyms Georges St. Martin and Ronald C. Nelson. More of their history can be found in this article.

Swithinbank and Nelson collated photos of boys, mainly from pedophile photographers Hajo Ortil, Karel Egermeier, Jos Le Doare, Jacques Simonot and others, and created The Boy. Around ten percent of the photos in the book are of nude boys, many of them with their buttocks or genitals displayed. The front cover features a naked boy with his buttocks exposed, wistfully staring into the ocean. This gives you an idea of the book’s intended audience.


This book has often been described as being based on the 1963 movie Lord of the Flies, with the photos supposedly taken on set while filming. This is untrue. There are some photographs taken on the set of the movie, but only twenty-three of them. The bulk of the remaining 380 or so photographs in the book are from several pedophile photographers, plus a few stock photographs as fillers.

Whilst many would dismiss this book as mere “artistic photography”, a cursory browse of images from the book (available on Google) paints an altogether different picture. You see poses that we’ve seen many times before, although we’ve seen them in erotic magazines that feature adults, not children.

In one photo, a boy with close-cropped hair stands at a door in just a pair of tight underpants, his hands gripping each side of the jamb, his muscles tensed to emphasize definition. In another, a boy is draped over a rock sunbathing, his eyes closed, one arm to the side and one leg drawn up. Yet another shows a tall, thin naked boy floating on his back in a pool, his back arched and his eyes shut as if in ecstasy, with genitals on full display.



The bulk of the images in this book are way beyond just observation. Many shots are well choreographed to sexualize the young male form. The sole purpose of these images, being of boys of a particular age range rather than adults, is for the titillation of pedophiles, nothing more. To ascribe any kind of nobility or artistic pretense to the publication is an obfuscation of it’s true intent. Whilst some images in the book could be classed as innocent, the overarching theme of the book is an appeal to those with an unhealthy obsession with prepubescent boys.

Jackson allegedly received this book from a fan, and the inscription on the flyleaf – To Michael: From your fan, “Rhonda” ♥ 1983, Chicago – would suggest that to be true. Some assert that Jackson was “sent a lot of stuff and didn’t know what he received”, yet this was shown to be not the case when Joe Marcus, Neverland’s house manager, testified at Jackson’s 2005 trial. He told the court staff screened all the gifts sent to the pop star’s home and passed on to Jackson only “nicer items that I think that he might be interested in seeing, what the fans have sent for him.”

If Jackson categorically didn’t have a sexual interest in boys, he would have thrown the book in the trash, not kept it carefully hidden away (it was revealed at Jackson’s 2005 molestation trial that the book was found in a locked filing cabinet in Jackson’s bedroom, along with it’s companion piece, Boys Will Be Boys).

By the same authors, Boys Will Be Boys was even more highly geared toward pedophiles. Whilst the cover is fairly modest, showing four boys in swimmers jumping into a lake, many images within are very explicit.


In Boys Will Be Boys around ninety percent of the boys are naked. The worst images are far too lewd for us to publish here, and could possibly be illegal in many countries (reaching up to 6 on the COPINE scale). We talked with someone who has seen the book, who said, “This book is clearly targeted at pedophiles. One shot shows a boy staring straight to camera, relaxing in an easy chair totally naked, his legs spread with his genitals clearly on show. Another photo shows a boy in speedos, an erection clearly visible.  Yet another is of a nude boy climbing a tree, shot from below so that nothing is left to the imagination. I’ve seen similar photos often of adults in similar poses.”

Jackson wrote inside the front cover of Boys Will Be Boys, “Look at the true spirit of happiness and joy in these boys’ faces. This is the spirit of boyhood, a life I have never had and will always dream of. This is the life I want for my children.”

If Jackson took delight in children’s faces, he certainly chose an odd book to express his delight, one composed of photos of mainly nude boys. Perhaps the inscription was an attempt to divert suspicion should he ever leave the book out where somebody could find it. It’s also clear now that the life Jackson gave his children was vastly different from that shown in the book, although that’s a subject for another day.

That Jackson acquired the companion piece to The Boy: A Photographic Essay, whether it was gifted to him (and was subsequently kept) or was bought by him, and that he kept the two books together locked in the same filing cabinet in his bedroom away from the rest of his book collection, is an indication that these two books were special to Jackson.

During Jackson’s 2005 trial, Senior Deputy District Attorney Ron Zonen argued that the books were “.. an example of a prurient interest in nude boys.” Defense lawyer Robert Sanger called the books irrelevant to the current case and said they would unfairly prejudice the jury. “It’s just plain stale to bring in something from that far back,” Sanger said. The judge, Rodney Melville, allowed the books to be presented as evidence as many of the photos “could be determined to be sexually explicit.”[4] The media were only shown the covers of the two books, so the suggestive nature of the images in the books wasn’t publicly discussed at length.[5].

Court TV was one news outlet which managed to get a hold of the books in question, and they were featured on a segment broadcast during jury deliberations. Host Catherine Crier and guests Frank Cascio and Frank’s lawyer Joe Tacopina discussed their propriety:

Mr Tacopina, in his vehement, almost hysterical, defense of these books is perfectly correct when he suggests that these items are not illegal and mere ownership does not mean that someone is a pedophile. After all, as many have pointed out, these books can be found in many libraries and personal collections the world over. What is damning though is that Jackson shared both a lot of his time, as well as his bed, with a succession of boys the same age as those erotically portrayed in these books. It is a combination of the books plus the amount of attention Jackson gave to boys that is the problem, not the books on their own. Context is everything.

Watching the video, the host initially declines to show any of the images from Boys Will Be Boys on camera due to their explicit nature, although she does eventually concede and shows one photograph with her hand strategically placed over the boy’s genital area. Most people would agree after seeing that, this is not an “innocent” art book when it is in possession of a man who regularly slept with boys.

One could also legitimately ask the question, if these books were coffee table books, as they’ve been described by others, why didn’t Jackson have them proudly out on display rather than hiding them in a filing cabinet? Probably because anyone with an intense interest in children, such as Jackson did, would be held in high suspicion were these books ever openly displayed in their home.

Also special to Jackson were two actual photographs of nude boys found in his bedroom at Neverland in 1993. The first was a young boy, completely nude. In court documents, the prosecutors wrote that they believed it to be a photograph of one of Jackson’s young friends Jonathan Spence. Some people have suggested that the photo never existed, giving the excuse that “it was only mentioned in one motion”. However the photograph, among other items, was

Jackson's attorney speaking in court about the photos found in 1993
Jackson’s attorney speaking in court about the photos found in 1993

discussed by Jackson attorney Brian Oxman at a January 28 hearing in the 2005 trial. He knew the photo existed, he argued that it shouldn’t be allowed to be entered into evidence, and he referenced it many times. The photo was definitely real. It would be absurd to suggest that the prosecution would attempt to have items entered into evidence, and if successful be unable to produce them, especially in a high-profile case such as this one.

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The other photo referenced in the motion depicted a boy holding an umbrella who was nude apart from a pair of partially pulled down bikini bottoms. Once again, as with the photo of Jonathan Spence, this was an actual photograph. Think about that for a moment. Actual nude and semi-nude photographs of boys that the prosecution believed they had established Jackson knew and spent time with. Boys whose parents had entrusted their sons to Jackson because they believed they were safe with him. Or even worse, parents who knew what was going on but turned a blind eye because of who Jackson was.

You are probably asking yourself, why didn’t Jackson get into trouble for possessing those two photos? As discussed earlier, it is not illegal to own naked photos of children unless they are clearly classed as child pornography. Even though Jackson’s ownership of those photos rang alarm bells, they were not against the law. As long as the parents and the boys didn’t complain about any impropriety, Jackson was in the clear.

Even after reading this, there may be some people who may be ambivalent about whether these materials are “so bad” or not. To put things in a personal context, most people would take a negative view if it were their child or a child they knew that was featured in the material we’ve been discussing.


In addition, the 2005 the search at Neverland yielded twenty nine nudist magazines: five copies of The Nudist from 1935; nineteen copies of The Nudist, Sunshine and Health; one copy of Solaire Universelle de Nudisme from May 1961; one copy of American Sunbather from May 1961; and three issues of Eden magazine.

Why would Michael Jackson be interested in nudist magazines?

According to the 1998 study Sexuality and the internet: Surfing into the new millennium, in the early 1990’s law enforcement in the United States were making relatively few arrests for child pornography. Evidence seized from suspects often consisted of decades-old naturist magazine photographs or series of photographs that were well known to investigators. These magazines would easily fall into that category.

In his book Naked: A Cultural History of American Nudism, Brian Hoffman writes:

Magazines such as the Nudist, which began its thirty-year run in May 1933, featured large, glossy pages and numerous photos alongside lengthy articles on a variety of nudist topics.
Displayed at newsstands and sent through the mail, the Nudist sold thousands of issues each month. The editors and leaders of the nudist movement wanted the many pictures in their magazines to show the benefits of going naked at a nudist camp; but the display of the naked body also allowed for multiple readings. An image of a naked muscular man presented readers with a symbol of strength and athleticism or a source of titillation for both women and men. The display of full-frontal female nudes of all body types exhibited nudism’s commitment to showing the body without shame while also providing glimpses of genitalia rarely displayed in other forms of commercial pornography. The many images of children in the magazine communicated the natural joy of going naked and gave individuals seeking out intergenerational sex a venue to gaze at prepubescent youth.

Hoffman’s book also details the infiltration of nudist circles by pedophiles and pedophile photographers who not only preyed on children but also contributed photos of children to the naturist magazines.

As Jackson already had books and magazines featuring naked men and women, the only plausible reason he would have had for owning these magazines was to view naked images of children. This makes sense, Jackson had skated close to thin ice in 1993 when his copies of The Boy: A Photographic Essay and Boys Will Be Boys were discovered in a locked cabinet, items that would closely tie him to an erotic interest in boys. Nudist magazines featuring children and adults didn’t look so suspicious and stayed in the theme of being legal to possess.

In 2016 one of Jackson’s former attorneys, Brain Oxman, was interviewed and suggested that the pop star’s collection of twenty-nine naturist magazines was a “historic investment” for which he had paid $320,000[6]. Whether Oxman was lied to or is lying, this seems highly unlikely. Magazines that Jackson purportedly paid over $10,000 each for can be sourced from eBay or online sellers for between ten and fifty dollars each[7]. These magazines were no “investment”. It’s more likely they were a new, safer source of nude boy images for Jackson after the loss of his original sources, The Boy and Boys Will Be Boys.

Out of all the items seized from Neverland in 2005, only nine items had fluorescing stains. Eight of the nine items with fluorescing stains were these naturist magazines. Fluorescing stains show up on evidence when bodily fluids have been spilled on the item. I will leave it up to your imagination as to what those bodily fluids may have been[see note].

County of Santa Barbara Sheriff’s Department, Bureau of Criminalistics Report: Items with fluorescing stains

What is interesting about this debate over the porn found in Jackson’s home has been the evolution of the arguments in the defense of Jackson over the years. He befriended and became close friends with a succession of young boys, and rarely had a romantic interest in women. Some of those boys were Emmanuel Lewis (1982-1984), Jonathan Spence (1984 – 1987), Jimmy Safechuck (1987-1992), Sean Lennon (1987 – 1988), Wade Robson (1990 – 1997), Brett Barnes (1991 – 1996), Jordan Chandler (1993), Frank & Eddie Cascio (1993 – 1996), Omer Bhatti (1996 – 2003) and Juju Elatab (2003).

Even though Jackson did marry twice, both marriages were short-lived. Jackson was reportedly furious that his first wife Lisa Marie Presley would not agree to become pregnant. She was reluctant because she felt the marriage was doomed, saying “When I imagined having a child with him, all I could ever see was the custody battle nightmare.” He decided to dump Presley and focus on someone who was willing to have his children, his second wife Debbie Rowe[8]. The focus of Jackson’s only verifiable relationships with women appeared to be as a source for children, not love or sex, and the older Jackson’s children become, it becomes more apparent that he relied on artificial insemination to conceive them.

In any case, though married he never put a stop to his friendships with young boys. While married to Lisa Marie Presley Jackson spent an inordinate amount of time with Cascio brothers Eddie and Frank. Presley was reportedly angry that Jackson preferred the company of the young boys and chose them to vacation with rather than her. Whilst traveling with a pregnant Debbie Rowe in Australia, Jackson brought along his cousin, 8-year-old Anthony Jackson. The pop star also moved his newly discovered best friend, 12-year-old Omer Bhatti into his home and into his bed despite being nominally married to Rowe.

Jackson didn’t alter his behavior over decades, it was only the explanations for his behavior which changed.

Despite extensive public scrutiny, nobody has ever identified any adult female lovers or girlfriends of Jacksons, even though a few pretenders have surfaced. Yet defenders point to his heterosexual pornography as the final evidence of his heterosexuality.

Yes, it is true that Jackson owned a sizable collection of soft-core porn, some three dozen magazines. The bulk of these were Barely Legal and similar magazines where the models are selected for their similarity to underage girls. Jackson was never noted to have an interest in underage looking girls.

Jackson also owned hardcore heterosexual pornography, some of it quite shocking including bondage, simulated rape, anal fisting, brown showers, “chicks with dicks” and lesbianism.

One of Michael Jackson's porn DVDs
One of Michael Jackson’s porn DVDs

Jackson’s straight porn collection was not the result of a prosaic interest in sexuality, rather each item falls into one of two categories – either reflecting a perverse and distorted interest in sex, or anodyne soft core pornography which seemed designed to appeal to teenage boys. In any case, the straight porn wasn’t for himself – out of the hundreds of fingerprints found on this material, investigators could only positively identify a handful that belonged to Jackson[9].

Why then would Jackson own straight porn if he was a pedophile? Kenneth Lanning, an FBI expert in the study of the sexual victimization of children, says in relation to pedophiles, “Adult pornography is frequently left out for the children to “discover.” A collection of adult pornography is effective in sexually arousing and lowering the inhibitions of adolescent boys. This is an important reason why preferential child molesters collect adult pornography. Some of them may even attempt to use this collection as proof that they do not have a sexual preference for children.”

Detective Craig Bonner of the Santa Barbara County Sherriff’s Department reviewed the porn and so-called “art books” found during the raid at Neverland and wrote in his report, “Based on my training, this type of material can be used as part of a “grooming” process by which people (those seeking to molest children) are able to lower their inhibitions of their intended victims and facilitate the molestation of said victims.”

As Jackson never showed any interest whatsoever in the type of girls featured in any of the magazines, either publicly or privately, it’s more likely that the material wasn’t for his own use.

What defenders also studiously ignore (or also dismiss as “art”) is the large amount of homosexual and homoerotic material that was found, including (but not limited to) Camp Cove – Photos Sydney Men, Bidgood, Chop Suey Club, Taormina and damningly, Man: A Sexual Study of Man, a gay sex primer on how to perform activities such as anal sex and oral sex[10].





One cannot simply dismiss the homoerotic material as “irrelevant” to Jackson’s sexuality. Jackson deliberately bought books, or they were gifted to him (as employee Joe Marcus revealed, when items were sent to Neverland Jackson was always handed the “nicer stuff” that Marcus thought he would be interested in), so nothing that was found at Jackson’s home was there by accident. These are books that Jackson wanted there.

Even if there were some artistic goal to Jackson perusing these books, they were far too risque to be left lying around in a place that supposedly celebrated the innocence of children. Even though this was Jackson’s residence, because he portrayed it as a safe place for children and promoted it as such to the parents of his young friends, these books along with the pornography should have been removed to another location. If Jackson unthinkingly left such material where children could find it would show he had a complete disdain for the innocence of children as well as the trust placed in him by parents.

Back to the evolution of the defense of Jackson.

The defenders of Jackson in the late 1980’s and early 1990’s insisted that Jackson was “asexual”, so him spending time with boys was totally innocent. In 1993, when Jackson was first accused of child molestation, this defense became de rigueur, although as you may recall Jackson already owned the two books featuring naked boys, so that defense was already inaccurate. At that time defenders also suggested that Jackson was hosting one-on-one sleepovers with boys because he was “a child himself”. As more evidence was revealed about Jackson over the years, including his prescription drug abuse and, during the 2005 trial his collection of pornography and naked photos of children, this defense became untenable.

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Bizarrely, once knowledge of Jackson’s porn and erotica collection was made public, defenders doubled down and insisted that the homoerotic material and pedophile material should be ignored, and that Jackson’s true interest lay in adult women based on his straight porn collection. This is in spite of a distinct lack of female relationships or any evidence of an interest in women beyond his collection.

If his hardcore pornography collection were to be taken at face value it shows a distinct lack of appreciation of women and instead shows someone who has disdain for them. Defenders are reduced to promoting the idea that Jackson had “secret” girlfriends – girlfriends so secret that not even his closest associates and family knew about them. It borders on the ridiculous.

Put together Jackson’s straight porn collection, both hard and soft core, his failed marriages, the lack of fingerprints found thereon and the distinct lack of female company in his life, and you have nothing. Put together the relationships (and sleepovers) with boys, the naked photos of boys, and the homoerotica, and you have the portrait of a pedophile.

Did Jackson own child porn? According to the law of California and the United States, no. According to your definition? That is for you to decide.

Shameful Media Episode

Click to read the full Radar Online article
Click to read the full Radar Online article

The reason I came to write this story was because of an article published on the Radar Online website in June 2016, titled Paedo Proof? Never-Before-Seen Cop Reports Expose Michael Jackson’s Sick Secrets. The subtitle was Documents reveal star ‘as a manipulative, drug-and-sex-crazed predator.’. Amazing click bait, right?

The story itself was typical tabloid fodder with a sensationalist writing style and half truths interspersed with facts. It starts with the quote:

Nearly seven years after the King of Pop’s death, RadarOnline.com has obtained never-before-seen reports from the Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Department that show the true depths of his depravity.

Never-before-seen reports from the Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Department? That’s entirely not true. The same documents from the Sheriff’s department have been online since Michael Jackson’s trial in 2005, and we’ve had them online on our site since 2010.

The document they did link was “new”, in the sense that someone had collated several reports together and interspersed them with pictures they had downloaded purportedly depicting some of the material in those reports. Who put this collated document together is a mystery. Whether it was sourced from within RadarOnline or whether it was supplied to the website by a third party is unknown. However, although there were a couple of errors in the added material, it was basically correct, and contained authentic documents which were presented at Jackson’s 2005 molestation trial.

Link to original document posted by Radar Online

Problematic though was RadarOnline’s description of the contents of that report.

The article, which was syndicated to hundreds of news sites across the world, caused a furore. Because of this one snippet in RadarOnline’s description – [the report] included filthy photos and videos of men, women, boys and girls in perverted positions – it was reported extensively that Jackson had owned child pornography. This obviously isn’t true, according to the strict letter of the law. Although some photos of children in Jackson’s possession could be described as perverted, none were illegal. Yet they were reported as such.

The article and the fallout from it made the truth a victim. Some things were clarified though.

The Santa Barbara Sheriff’s Department wrote in response to the article:

“Some of the documents appear to be copies of reports that were authored by Sheriff’s Office personnel as well as evidentiary photographs taken by Sheriff’s Office personnel interspersed with content that appears to be obtained off the internet or through unknown sources. The Sheriff’s Office did not release any of the documents and/or photographs to the media. The Sheriff’s Office released all of its reports and the photographs as part of the required discovery process to the prosecution and the defense.”

Many people seized on the words “…content that appears to be obtained off the internet or through unknown sources…” and erroneously pronounced the entire RadarOnline PDF as fake. One of those was a spokesperson for the Michael Jackson Estate, who gleefully responded:

“Everything in these reports, including what the County of Santa Barbara calls “content that appears to be obtained off the Internet or through unknown sources” is false…”[11]

Clearly, the factual reports from the Sheriff’s Department were not false, and most of the photos weren’t either so it’s quite disingenuous for the Estate to label them as such.

Assistant District Attorney at Jackson’s trial, Ron Zonen, was interviewed by People magazine a day later and stated, “…law enforcement did discover adult pornographic magazines and videos, though nothing constituting child pornography.”

Zonen went on to say, “There were photos of nude children but they weren’t sexually graphic.” The photos he says showed children “playing in the stream, climbing trees, nature photographs, nudist colonies, things like that.”[12]

You’ve seen the photos above. While not sexually graphic, they are sexualized photos of boys.

The truth is that Jackson owned the same material owned by many pedophiles, including full frontal nudes of boys, while he was sharing his bed and spending much of his spare time with boys the same age as those depicted in the very same material. While it was wrong for Radar Online and other media to say Jackson owned child pornography, it is also wrong for anyone to suggest that nothing incriminating was found. You’ve read the descriptions of what was found, you be the judge.

Law enforcement investigators and child abuse therapists know what possession of these material means. They know all the background about these books, the environment in which they were produced, who produced them and who they were produced for. The folks who bleat that these books are mere art and their possession by Jackson means nothing are either completely ignorant or are deliberately trying to downplay their significance. In other words, they’re MJ fans and pedophiles – and maybe both at the same time.

– HellT


[1] From Californian Penal Code 311: “sexual conduct” means any of the following, whether actual or simulated: sexual intercourse, oral copulation, anal intercourse, anal oral copulation, masturbation, bestiality, sexual sadism, sexual masochism, penetration of the vagina or rectum by any object in a lewd or lascivious manner, exhibition of the genitals or pubic or rectal area for the purpose of sexual stimulation of the viewer, any lewd or lascivious sexual act as defined in Section 288, or excretory functions performed in a lewd or lascivious manner, whether or not any of the above conduct is performed alone or between members of the same or opposite sex or between humans and animals. An act is simulated when it gives the appearance of being sexual conduct.”. Technically exhibition of the genitals or pubic or rectal area for the purpose of sexual stimulation of the viewer could apply to some of the material in the books Jackson owned however the subjective nature of the definition would make prosecution difficult.

[2]Naked: A Cultural History of American Nudism by Brian Hoffman

[3]New Look At Dark Accusations, NBC News, 17th February 2003

[4]Judge Bars Journalist’s Testimony in Jackson Trial, but Allows Jurors to See ‘Boy’ Books, LA Times, 30th April 2005

[5]Jacko’s ‘joy’ boys – naked pictures reveal ‘innocent’ yearnings, New York Post, 30th April 2005

[6]Jacko’s Sick Excuses Exposed! Former Attorney Says Pervy Kiddie Art ‘Was Not Porn’, Radar Online, 23rd June 2016

[7]Oldmags Website

[8]Michael Jackson: The Magic, The Madness, The Whole Story, 1958-2009 by J. Randy Taraborrelli

[9]Testimony of Robert Spinner http://www.mjfacts.com/transcripts/Court%20Transcript_3_25_2005.pdf, http://www.mjfacts.com/transcripts/Court_Transcript_3_28_2005.pdf, http://www.mjfacts.com/transcripts/Court%20Transcript_3_29_2005.pdf

[10]The Full List Of Porn and Erotica Found in Michael Jackson’s Home 

[11]Police Reports Surface Detailing Michael Jackson’s Alleged Pornography Collection; Jackson Estate Responds, Billboard, 21st June 2016

[12]Michael Jackson’s Estate Blasts New Pornography Reports as Sheriff and Former Prosecutor Weigh In, People Magazine, 22nd June 2016

[note]Some have argued that this exchange between Jackson lawyer Robert Sanger and witness Charlene Marie, senior criminalist of the California Department of Justice at the Santa Barbara Regional Crime Laboratory, proves something:

Q. Okay. And your job was to look at that with an alternative light source, correct?

A. Yes.

Q. Did I ask you this? On 766, that’s your handwriting on the notes around the pictures?

A. It is.

Q. All right. And when you looked at the alternative light source, looked at the items with the alternative light source, did you find any suspected DNA to sample and analyze?

A. Well, the light source is just a presumptive searching tool, and all it’s going to tell you is if something’s glowing. If something’s glowing, biologicals do glow, so that’s one area that you might want to test.

Q. Okay. Is that what you were looking for?

A. I was looking for biological material, yes.

Q. Bodily fluids, pretty much?

A. Correct.

Q. The question is, did you find any?

A. I did not.

Q. So as far as you could tell, there was no DNA to be tested from the materials you were sent?

A. Well, there’s no seminal material.

Q. There’s nothing you felt — just to make it clear, I’m not trying to trap you here, but there was nothing that you found and you said, “Ah-hah, we ought to send this off to Sacramento or have a DNA lab do a further analysis of this”; is that correct?

A. That’s right.

Q. You pretty much packaged it back up and sent it back to Santa Barbara?

A. I did, yes.

From this exchange, others have come to the conclusion that no semen stains were found on the nudist magazines. This is erroneous. Earlier in her testimony, Ms Marie was asked about what evidence she was asked to test:

A.  So, yes, I did. I received evidence. And did you ask me what did I receive?

Q. Not yet.

A. Okay.

Q. What did you receive?

A. I received Item 317, and various subsets of that, 317-B, G, K, L, R, S, Y, double B, double C, 26 double E, double K, double R, double U, double Y, 27 and triple D. 15 items.

Charlene Marie received only 15 items from Item 317. Item 317, which at trial was known as Exhibit 470, was a black briefcase found near Jackson’s bed which contained adult magazines. The naturist magazines weren’t in that briefcase, they were found in boxes in the downstairs area of Jackson’s bedroom. Charlene Marie did not test the nudist magazines so her testimony is irrelevant.

The nudist magazines were hardly mentioned at trial because they did not contain DNA or fingerprints from the accusers.


  • The Queen Of Swords

    I wish there was a warning as to the photos shown. 🙁

    No one but a sick, Pedophile would own those books.


    • Florville

      A story about a similar book that came out in the ’70’s and was controversial -but in mainstream book stores – was mentioned in a written confession I read by a pedophile priest. The book was called “Show Me, A Picture Book of Sex for Children and Parents.” The court required that he tell “the whole story,” and he apparently did so in this written confession.

  • To’Shari

    Michael blamed the law enforcement for “contaminating” Neverland, but Neverland was already contaminated long before with the booze,drugs, porn and of course molestation of innocent young boys…. Great article. This just prove once again that the place Michael Jackson created, definitely was not for children to enjoy and be a kid (in this case, young boys preferably, his selected special friends) to be a safe- haven, innocent, completely away from “adult content” free, childhood experience type of home. These boys spending extensive amount of time (pretty much a “couples-style” of relationship) being with Michael (adult male) for his enjoyment instead of enjoying being a kid with their peers. smh…

  • Andreas

    Great work.

    I will give the Jackson fans one thing though. Look at this picture they’ve been showing off.


    Yep. They sure have a point. When you see the original and the edited version from Radar Online, it clearly shows that the nature of those pictures were completely innocent and Radar Online just tried to make them LOOK explict when they were not! Really, it was just three cool guys hanging around doing nothing. Playing blindfolded, or something?

    Nothing to see here! In fact you could probably safely show those pictures to every kid in your neighborhood, they’re just THAT innocent, fun and pure.

    Oh, wait… whats this?

  • SoSo

    Anyway, I’m just going to ask: Were Michael’s fingerprints on those magazines? Because, in a different post, you have a list of items that featured his fingerprints, and those magazines were not mentioned.

    As far as I’m concerned, out of those magazines that did feature his fingerprints, there was only one magazine that had Gavin’s fingerprints on it as well, so I don’t really see why there being no DNA or fingerprints from the accusers would entail that Michael’s fingerprints or DNA evidence would not be spoken about.

    • Sorry, your query is not clear. What are you trying to ask?

    • Pea

      Gavin Arvizo claimed he was shown porn by Michael Jackson. The prosecution would then choose to home in only on items that could be used to corroborate that allegation. I believe I know what you’re attempting to imply: that even if a piece of evidence, such as nudist magazines, couldn’t be connected to Gavin but could to Jacko — but it could reasonably suggest that Jacko had an interest in boys — intuitively it should be allowed in.

      However, you’d have to remember that, for the sake of fairness, to limit juror confusion, and to not take up undue time, only relevant evidence is allowed in. In this case, it would be stuff Gavin and Star claimed they saw, stuff that could be proved to have been touched by them, or, in the case of Jacko’s nude boy books, something so proximate that it would suggest intent or propensity.

      As a negative example, Gavin claimed Jacko took his dirty underwear. Police found underwear in Jacko’s home that was kept in a bag of his own soiled clothes containing the semen from another male. As the underwear was found 8 months after the Arvizos left Neverland, was negative for Arvizo boy DNA, and was in the wrong brand, it could not be used as the prosecution desired (to corroborate that Jacko saved Gavin’s underwear). It was irrelevant.

      Similarly, the nudist magazines were not claimed to have been shared with the Arvizo boys nor did they show evidence of being handled by them, so they would never come in. Additionally, if the magazines were not super explicit, the jury would, theoretically, have to take time to determine if they could be used to groom boys in a case where the accusers never saw them — as pointed out above, that’s usually barred by law.

      • Michael Jeffrey

        This semen story is one of main reason why I believe that Jackson was gay:
        I was always confused about Gavin and this is why i have chosen not to write about him.I can not believe his story.

        • CandyC

          Very good article Michael, there is more evidence of him being gay than him being heterosexual. I prefer him gay, I don’t like to see him with women. I still think children were is main interest more than anything, though.

          Back on topic… I think the few women in MJ’s life were beards, sure the f’loons might like to point out that he showed interest in fangirls on stage and also there are stories of him flirting with women but those things could easily been a facade, a distraction. He was never seen in public with a believable female partner, only holding hands with little boys.

          If you ever see videos of MJ and Eddie Murphy together you can see Eddie was all over MJ, he showed interest in him, he probably got that “vibe” from MJ.

          It is way too suspicious that he suddenly wanted to marry LMP only three or so months after settling child sexual abuse allegations, come on! She was used for PR. If he wasn’t famous, people would never give him the benefit of the doubt.

  • Hilal Alsameraaii

    I took a look at it. I’m quite unsure if Jackson coming up with Speechless while playing with a boy means that he wrote the lyrics about the boy. If you listen to the early demos for songs like Beat It and Billie Jean, it’s clear that he would write the melody first and then the lyrics.

    Of course, this doesn’t necessarily mean that Jackson didn’t write the lyrics about the boy, but neither does it mean that he did.

    Nonetheless, I still don’t think that Jackson’s relationship with this boy was innocent, but we could all be wrong about him.

    • Michael Jeffrey

      I don’t think I stated in my article that MJ wrote speechless for Anton,but he was inspired by Anton to write it and I honestly think it is weird enough to be inspired by a teen boy for a romantic song.Jackson himself said that he wrote speechless after playing with Anton,who was 14 then.

      • Hilal Alsameraaii

        Sorry, I must have misread it.

  • Pea

    The seizure of items was two-pronged: could they be used to (1) confirm the Arvizos’ story, and (2) circumstantially confirm the Arvizos’ story?

    Nudist magazines featuring naked children would fit criterion two, since the argument was that Jacko was a pedophile, and pedophiles tend to own images of nude kids. However, “mere possession” is less strong evidence than actually being able to prove that he handled them — that’s why they were tested for DNA and fingerprints.

    And note, too, that oftentimes many things are initially seized but, due to constitutional issues, some items are cut out before trial.

  • CandyC

    You’re welcome, Michael, I only saw this reply now 🙂 So MJ had female friends? He seemed to keep mainly older female friends and perhaps the younger female friends were “beards” perhaps?

    So you believe he was gay as well as being a pedophile/hebephile? Because I think it’s been debated a lot whether you can be both, since homosexuality and pedophilia are two seperate human conditions, so to speak. Political correctness is rife in today’s society.

    I don’t believe the fans ever want to accept he may have been gay (something I’m still a bit sceptical about but I’ll read your article sometime 😉 ) because the majority are female fans — don’t want to risk their fantasy taken away if they even considered the possibility he was gay, so they cling to any hint of there being an interest in an adult woman, he was one of the most famous men in the world, it would be clear what he was, so far he’s only been accused of having an excessive and almost addiction esque interest in children.

    • Michael Jeffrey

      Kids were his main attraction. 93% of pedophiles have a secondary attraction to adults(men or women)/Most normal bisexuals also prefer men or women. MJ was mainly attracted to male children, so if he wasen’t one of the 7% , he was gay in his adult orientation. I personally believe that he had sexual relationships with men and women as it is claimed, throughout his life. We also thought that he only molested young boys, and now we have a female accuser. The truth is that we don’t know as much as we would like to know.

  • Melissa

    I know right? They always say someone who “accuse” him of being gay (as being gay is a crime) is projecting himself. They said it when Klein and Jason spoke. If it is a female, she’s just jealous because MJ didn’t want to sleep with her. This is fan logic.

    • Michael Jeffrey

      Totally agree Melissa. Everything what MJ said,his fans automatically buy. He was never in a believable relationship with a woman,at least not one we know of.

  • Florville

    What about computer stuff – hard drives, storage media, accounts, browser histories, ISP information, etc.? Surely all that was looked at – nothing found? Maybe he wasn’t a computer person?

    • Pea

      Yes, nothing illegal was found on Jacko’s computers (I believe he had at least six of them) when they were analyzed during the Arvizo case in 2003-05. The Prosecution had FBI assistance for that task, and the lack of recovery of anything relevant was why they weren’t included as evidence — all that was found were cache images of nude women.

      That would’ve been consistent with the Arvizo boys’ claims that Jacko showed them hetero porn online, except the computers required no log-on credentials, meaning there was no way to prove who had used them to access the internet.

  • Holly Keefer

    It’s interesting and yes, it makes sense but than there is the question as to why he purposely choose women to go on stage.He’d sexually touch their butts(he slapped one women on the butt pretty hard while on stage), hips and even kiss them. Maybe it was all for show but, it sure looks like he enjoyed himself while doing these things. He’s either a really good actor or he really did like the ladies. idk., It’s hard to tell.The question still stands in my mind.

    • He was performing. There is no ‘home videos’ or ‘secret’ photographs of MJ showing any kind of romantic interest in a woman, or being intimate with one.

      He seems quite affectionate in other videos though, for instance this one


    • Dani Vanbuskirk-Beil

      Holly MJ was a master manipulator, Motown corp taught him that..Fake smile, fake laugh act like you love your fans (honestly if I were him I would despise the fans the real crazed ones who yell outside all night every day in the snow when I am trying to sleep..
      He was considered a master showman and illusionist..there are reasons for that:) Mj always looked uneasy around women(he was uneasy with people in general like almost to a semi autistic level in many ways)..I

      mean it might be he was really turned off by them..to me it matters not at all but you can slap an ass, or even make a porn film, and not like it but think of it as a job, and just an act..you could not tell how much he changed his persona depending on who he spoke to and where he was?

      onstage he had said himself he never wanted to get off stage and live real life.
      Why do you think that was? Me? Because he liked the power of putting people into those trance like love ins (yes he was a great performer) awesome, but its showbiz, smoke and mirrors..He knew how to work it from a very very young age. Its called forcing them to eat outta the palm of your hand, and when he was ON, he did it within freaking seconds..With no note sung, no music, no dance..Just standing there..people are passing out and acting like fools. Kinda like hitler yeah?

      Remember I am a fan, but I am pretty real with what type of person he most likely was. If you think it looked like he enjoyed that dancer woman grabbing his ass and kissing him at MSG..I dunno what to say, it caught him off guard and you can tell he did not like it, but he knew that would disappoint that crowd. She was fired what 1 hour later?

  • Aaron Herald

    Thank you for this site. It is an invaluable resource for those interested in researching the claims against Jackson. Eye-opening and deeply disturbing, to put it mildly.

    This particular article, though, contains a definitive claim that I’d not read previously, namely that no adult female lovers of Jackson’s have been publicly identified. Correct me if wrong, but didn’t Lisa Marie once claim that they did have a sexual relationship?

  • peter

    Hi guys. Like any of us longtime fans that have aweken ourselves after the new post mortem acusations by Robson etc,and the semen stains found in is room along with the wonderful job Mjfacts and the blog of MJandtheboys…I decided to listen to the man himself.There are many body language analisis of Wade Robson in youtube by specialistsand also others on Michael Jackson. After reading again this article I decided to watch carefully the interview with Lisa Marie Presley where he denies the posession.I paid attention to the words and body language and I feel so stupid that this pedophile tricked me. Now I do believe he was not only an incredible singer but he truly deserves an Oscar. During the interview,he seems very calm.He keeps eye contact with the intervier at all times.And his eyes are not shaky,his hands are not shaky.I cant say anything about his feet cause are not shown. It came to my atentionwhen she asks about photographs of boys found he keeps a straight look in his eyes and keeps the eye contact.He denies it saying theres pictures of everything not just boys,girls too.The interviwer does not want to leave the topic alone and she brings up the “books”.He says the word in a inquisitive way. And Ladies & gentlemen our Oscar nominee pedophile lost it for a second. The fear climbed up his spine and he blinks his eyes 2 consecutive times very fast.You can lso sense the fear in his eyes.Just like when your mom caught you eating bisquits.. Those eyes that had remained still and focused through all the interview. Right after he begins the acting part raises his voice and his facial gestures. He says “No..”but before the journalist is able to confront him about it cause the police report is undeniable he goes:”NO..not that I know of.. UNLESS people send me things that I have not open…He goes on to say he recieves a lot of mail and he is clearly over acting trying to be convincing using his hands. He is Michael Jackson,if a book arrives to Neverland by mail it doesnt go from the gates straight to his bedroom.The same way any letter you get in your mailbox does not get to your bedroom unless you take it yourself there.Michael Jackson could recieve threats and even venom from any crazy people so I doubt the staff would grab the mail in the gates and take it straight to Michael Jacksons room.Not to mention he had a secret security code to enter his room.So if the book was found in his room,and that was the case)the only way was Michael taking it to the room. also the book was open not in plastic or sealed like he suggests here and had his hand writing and finger prints.So he is lying here.Does it mean he abused kids? Not necesarly,maybe he liked the photography of the book in a artistic way and not a sexual way. BUT he is lying wich means hes definately hiding something. If he says he liked the book form an artistic point of view they would reply why not a book with artistic photography of women? And for sure he didnt want to get in that territory…and the books were locked,wich only means 2 things..1 he didnt want anybody to find out about them( hes hiding something and he knows those books are not aropiate)2 those books are very precious to him so he doesnt want anybody to steal them from him or damage them( again it shows those are not books somebody just sent and he wasnt aware of..This also lets me know he is hiding something.Theres a slim chance that he kept those books with an estetic artistic interest but knowing that the nudist magazines had fluids on them the idea of him collecting nude material for photographic artistic interest falls like a castle of sand in the beach. So at the end he looked like a dog,talked like a dog,people said he was a dog and thats in fact what he was.it should not be a surprise if it wasnt for his master manipulative PR Peter Pan campaign that I swalowed along with the rest of the world. Now that Im a grown man it sickens me this pedo tricked me and I believed him and supported him through both trials. He will burn in hell cause thats the only thing he deserves and he probably was not able to sleep because he had nightmares of the world finding out his secret loose his children and go to jail in shame.Thats what should have happened.King of Pop? King of lies. His face was a lie,his hair was a lie he was a joke a lie from head to toe.A devil disguised as angel.He wanted to be adored cause he deep inside knew he wasnt worth nothing and was miserable monster. He enjoyed playing with the world at his will but God called it ends.Wht goes around comes around.He ended ruined destroyed a sorry excuse of what he wanted to be. I think he was so mentally ill that he wanted to abuse kids that were like he wanted to be as a kid.He wanted to be a white kid so bad and thats what he worshipped and corrupted. The only love he knew was buying people of gifts so they would adore him.Just a selfish fake as$.Im glad he is not around anymore ruining little kids life.No amount of great music can compensat the suffering of a little child.They looked up to him and he abused them in the worst way. Smooth criminal..he was not hiding his true self