Death of Tom Sneddon Unleashes Outpouring of Hate from Michael Jackson Fans

Sadly, on the 1st of November 2014, the prosecutor in the 2005 Michael Jackson child molestation case died from complications resulting from his cancer diagnosis. Tom Sneddon stood up and did his job without shying away from the hate and controversy it would cause. While Jackson fans insist Mr Sneddon had a vendetta against their idol, the truth is far simpler. Tom cared deeply about not just sexual abuse victims but also disadvantaged members of his community and those who would take advantage of them – and there is no doubt that Jackson took advantage of others for his own selfish needs.

Hot on the heels of our Inside The Cult Of Michael Jackson story last week, Tom Sneddon’s death unleashed a torrent of hate from Jackson fans. When the story was published on Santa Barbara news site Noozhawk, it caused an immediate outpouring of hate from the Jackson fans. Some examples are below.






Quite disturbing what Jackson fans will come out with.

When someone tried to insert a little sanity into the thread, they were quickly shouted down by an indignant fan.


The irony is overwhelming when you consider that a common refrain from Jackson fans is that “You shouldn’t speak ill of the dead” if anyone dares criticize Michael Jackson!

The abuse continued…


Incredibly, one Jackson fan writes that her ultimate fantasy is for Tom Sneddon to be “tortured… on the other side”.


She then adds a postscript to ensure everyone understands her true feelings…


When accused of being “filled with hate”, one commenter replies

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Yes, you read that right. Commenter Jen considers Jackson as her “loved one”. A dead celebrity… sad, but true.

The incredible thing is that fans have previously criticized law enforcement for not doing enough to prosecute suspected pedophiles. If Tom Sneddon had prosecuted a case of child molestation against any other suspected pedophile who slept thousands of nights with a succession of young boys while owning child erotica, who wasn’t Michael Jackson, he would have been lauded as a hero.

One commentator who actually knew Tom Sneddon, and is shown to be grieving, is ruthlessly attacked by a low class Jackson fan.


When the story was tweeted by Diane Dimond, a journalist who has written about Jackson in the past, she was subjected to vile, disgusting and misogynistic comments from even more Jackson fans.


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Particularly disturbing was this message of “love” from a male Jackson fan:

Even at the time of writing this post, there were dozens more hate comments added to this conversation on Twitter.

When the story of Tom Sneddons death was also posted on tabloid website TMZ, it predictably unleashed more hate from Jackson fans, with many comments referring to Mr Sneddon in disparaging ways and wishing him in hell.

These are not isolated comments by a few rogue fans. If you go back and look at the most foul comments and tweets you will see that they are upvoted, favorited and retweeted hundreds of times by other fans, thereby condoning and agreeing with the most heinous sentiments yet seen.

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This is no expression of collective emotion – this is a concerted campaign by the Jackson cult to pour hate and scorn upon those who were merely doing their job, people who stand up for what they believe in, whose only crime was to shine a spotlight on Michael Jackson’s behavior, and for that they are ridiculed, attacked and wished death upon.

If Jackson fans truly, in their hearts, knew Jackson was innocent of all wrongdoing they could ignore any “false” revelations about Jackson.

It’s incredibly sad that Jackson’s legacy is not one of tolerance, forgiveness and love but one of intolerance, blame and hate.

Jackson fans should reconsider their position.

  • Salem

    It just goes to show that MJ fans are immoral hateful vermin. These people had better have a good excuse for when THEY meet the maker, because their behaviour has been disgusting.

    • Pupari E Pupi

      but what you write ?? the only immoral parasites are those that are due to a dead man to have money damages when they have had plenty of time to do this when he was alive 9 years ago at the famous 2005 trial. I ask you but if you were abused you, what would you rather see your tormentor rot in jail or fill your pockets with big bucks ?? I would rather see my tormentor in prison. But do not you realize that there is something wrong ??? We fans are not obsessed, we’re just tired of all this junk. For the death of Tom Sneddon I’m not sorry and I’m not happy, but my opinion of him is negative, because a representative of the law falsifying evidence in order to convict MJ he did not see it my esteem it my compassion also the face of death, because he has not had for others. Please reasoning and informed well. And then just leave the dead in

      • mjfacts

        Hi Pupari, to understand where Wade is coming from, you need to understand the grooming process. Michael Jackson groomed boys, parents and the public to believe what he was doing was OK. That’s why Wade saw nothing wrong with what Jackson was doing to him. He thought it was “love”.

        It’s only when you understand the manipulation (and yes, you and everybody else defending Michael have been manipulated) do you then see the light, as Wade did. I hope and pray you learn to recognize when you are being manipulated if only for the sake of any children that you may one day have in your care.

        If you are interested, one of our writers is doing a story on how acquaintance molesters groom their victims as well as those around them which will be published in the next few weeks. Check back if you are.

      • Salem

        I’m sorry, but I can barely understand your post. Perhaps English is your second language, and that’s ok. But I can only pick up bits and pieces. There was NO falsifying of evidence. Please STOP LYING. Also, if you are abused, you would seek financial COMPENSATION, for pain, therapy etc. That is something most normal people do. COMPENSATION, is PART of the process. So I would want him in jail AND FINANCIAL COMPENSATION. Just like my father who received financial compensation from the Catholic church because he was sexually abused at an orphanage. There is *nothing wrong* in seeking compensation. A normal person would do that. Clearly you have no idea the impact of sexual abuse has. Which would explain why you support the pedophile Michael Jackson.

  • Pea Arthur

    I can understand that Jacko’s fans would relish in Tom Sneddon’s death. It’s only normal to breathe freely when a person you despise (wrongly or rightly) ceases to exist; it would be an exercise in cognitive dissonance for them to even say they care. However, the fact of the matter is that their dislike of Sneddon is totally misplaced. As J. Randy Taraborrelli stated: if Tom Sneddon’s vendetta was that he believed a child molester had used his wealth and celebrity to skirt punishment in 1993, then so be it, he had a vendetta. And, certainly, that would be a prudent vendetta to have. After all, it’s not like Jacko was vindicated in any way back in ’93. He simply paid and it disappeared, including, as the settlement stated, the discovery validating “J. Chandler v. Jackson”.

    The fans humorously would have you to believe that from ’94 to ’03, Sneddon did nothing else but think about how to nail Jacko. Of course, from their obsessive, myopic perspectives every day is Jacko-day!

    I’m just upset Sneddon never kept a diary, a scrapbook, or some other writings about his long history with Jacko. That would’ve been really good reading.

  • JessicaSideways

    Well, this can be pointed to the next time MJ’s worshippers cry about us attacking a dead man. After all, they apparently don’t have any reservations about attacking a dead man.

  • Tom

    I think a few of MJ’s fans split after RW died, there was a split opinion over his death. Some MJ fans were attacking RW on twitter and on youtube saying “karma” etc. It was quite a revelation how some MJ fans would “say burn in h#ll, RW” over a few jokes he made about MJ.

    MJ also had an enemies list. His hardcore fans also have an enemy list apparently.

  • Lourdes Bagnol Mansibang

    Tom Snedon is a cold man.May he rest in hell and now probably Michael Jackson is very happy in heaven while the soul of this asshole being tormented in hell.

    • I approved your comment Lourdes, but only so that people can see how nasty fans can be. Why would you want someone to go to hell for being concerned about the safety of children who MJ took to bed with him? I assume you disagree with Evan Chandler for taking money instead of proceeding to trial, so why be angry at Tom Sneddon for prosecuting Jackson? Those two stances do not tally.

      • CandyC

        Your questions would only lead to one logical answer: celebrity worship syndrome.

  • Andreas

    Fans truly hate Tom Sneddon with a glowing passion, but it sort of makes sense why they would, right? If MJ hypotethically was innocent, you’d have some problems explaining why a DA would spend so much time, energy and resources going after Jackson, because Sneddon really did.

    Rationally thinking though, even if Jackson was innocent, he still had charges from little boys against him, so Sneddon would only be doing his job taking action. He wouldn’t know if the accusers had lied, if they did, as he wasn’t there, so its still a bit unfair that Tom Sneddon became the mascot of everything the MJfam should hate. He simply found both Jordy and Gavin(and others) believable, and that would be his only crime.

    Fans are rarely that informed about details though, its a good vs evil battle to them, and some of them even think Sneddon, The Chandlers, The Arvizos was conspiring together against Jackson. Some of the things they say are absolutely insane.

    • Pea

      Fans have spent 100s — if not 1000s — of collective hours digging up dirt on Tom Sneddon. The page below, featuring it’s unnamed “source”, insisted Sneddon was a racist.

      It also showed some other cases allegedly proving that he was a government criminal, and that with the players in Santa Barbara there existed the “perfect storm” for “black Jacko” to get accused of pedophilia. I’m probably making a strawman out of the page, but even if Tom Sneddon was as racist as Mark Fuhrman, how would that apply to Michael Jackson he hadn’t looked black since 1991?

      Now, I don’t doubt Sneddon was called “Mad Dog” for a reason — I personally feel he didn’t vet the Arvizo case as well as he should have because his ego had been bruised by the 1994 settlement — but I think he mostly was a moral man.

      • ShawntayUStay

        Omg! See that photo exemplifies the reason I believe he bleached his skin on purpose to look…white? Some kind of Spanish?…Or Asian? If he had vitiligo for real, it was seen as a gift from the Heavens and promptly exploited by a demented mind.

        • There is more than just his skin that makes him look white, so for anybody to dismiss the drastic change as “vitiligo” is plainly glossing over many other factors. And personally, I found the Doo Doo embroidery was… weird.

          • Can you imagine the conversation with the person doing the embroidery?

            “So that’s just the two words then Mr. Jackson? Doo and Doo? I would personally go for Fecal Matter, Fecal Matter… it just has a classier ring to it, but you’re the boss!”

            And poor old Bill in that pic… “Sure Bill, I’ll come visit you on your death bed… Just keep an eye on the road”.

        • Fudhux

          I really don’t believe he had vitiligo . Its almost impossible to me. Just look at his photos , especially his hands in the late 80’s early 90’s : they were black with no patches. And he clearly had white foundation all over his face neck and ears. I have never seen a photo of him with clear patches like you would see in real cases of vitiligo. They say vitiligo was mentioned in his autopsy. I don’t know if this is true but I really have hard time believing it.

      • Andreas

        I suppose there’s a slight possibility Tom Sneddon could have seen MJ as a bit of “trophy” to get convicted, like some hunters want a moosehead on their wall, or perhaps not, but either way I’m sure he genuinely believed Michael Jackson was a child molester. Its interesting how fans never focus on Ron Zonen though, as he was also involved both in 1993 and 2005. Perhaps not as easy to portray as a bully as Tom Sneddon.

        The racism angle never made much sense to me. Who was taking Jackson to court in 2005? A poor latino family. Jacksons defenders often dismisses the Arvizos just as some type of low life “gypsies”, and somehow they don’t see the irony.

      • Neely

        Is this Bill Bray? I’ve seen mention of Bill Bray here and in other readings.

        I don’t think Sneddon seemed racist, but, he did seem like he had a personal disdain for Michael Jackson. When speaking publicly he couldn’t resist sort of slamming him on a personal level re: his music. This based on a press conference I saw which I’m sure everyone here has seen. I thought that represented a tiny peek into the heart of Sneddon. A “professional” representative I don’t think would have made that remark. I felt it was a little insensitive to victims too…..the whole announcement really. He was pretty cavalier about the whole thing. I don’t know what would drive a “vendetta” against Michael Jackson but feel like if it’s true, it’s one of two things, or maybe even a mixture of them. 1) he felt in his heart of hearts that MJ was a pedophile. 2) his ego was severely damaged by 1993. I don’t think race came into it, and I base that opinion on having zero facts, lol. As much as you can gather about the tone in court transcripts, Sneddon seemed always respectful and fair. I am still only halfway through them though.

        • Mahoney

          Yup… that’s good old Bill. Loyal to the end… Unlike Mike.

  • ShawntayUStay

    Lol, I agree with everything you said! My opinion is that he didn’t champion his vitiligo because he either 1) he didn’t have it or 2) he had it but thought it was a gift from God so he didn’t see it as this horrible disease that needed to have a vocal advocate. Fans talk about MJ as this big humanitarian but his silence regarding vitiligo is actually very telling. He was known to donate to charities for HIV/AIDS, he befriended Ryan White. He also donated money to have a burn center created after his Jheri curl caught aflame. And we all are aware that he was obsessed with kids’ charities because he didn’t have a childhood. So he was very capable of supporting causes that were personal and/or directly experienced by him. One wonders why he didn’t see vitiligo as a worthy cause, especially since it was his most visible affliction (outside of pedophilia of course, LOL). I can think of only a few logical reasons for the omission.

    • Mahoney

      Ha… yeah, just who exactly is the God of unstable skin pigmentation though? Thor? Neptune? I get mixed up with em all…

      I think it all just speaks to the gargantuan-sized complicated relationship he had with “the man in the mirror”. Which is only human, we can all relate to that in some way I s’pose… But like everything in his life… He eventually took it to the next level didn’t he? .

      Ultimately though, my issue is not that he did it, it’s his face/his body/his money – nothing to do with me (people do a lot more extreme things in terms of body-modification don’t they?) it’s the fact that he never owned it in any way (Not even in a humorous Joan Rivers/Dolly Parton way).

      Never really ‘fessed, never really told the truth about it. (Not that it’s surprising, this is the guy who after a chance-meeting with Adam Ant, totally changed his image to a more military/highway-man/sea-faring attire overnight and never admitted to it or gave credit.)

      The difference between MJ and that dude I talked to in Manchester the other month with devil-horns and giant ear inserts, is that guy sure as shite isn’t pretending it occurred naturally, or that it’s part of the “maturing” process.

      “Just the two nose jobs then Mikey-pops? Ok, I’ll buy that for a sec bud, but if that’s the only surgery you’ve had mate, you may wanna investigate the fact that the bottom half of ya face is turning into Kirk Douglas… I mean, if I naturally grew a cleft-chin overnight, I’d be a tad concerned fella. Seems odd you haven’t noticed though, cos it sure does look like you’re colouring that bad-boy in to accentuate it somewhat… And whilst we’re at it sunshine, what happened to that cute little freckle/mole thing you had on your left cheek for the first 20-odd years of ya life? Seems to have totally disappeared and been replaced by a small crater…. You didn’t gauge that out with a spoon didya Mike? What’s that? Bubbles’ double was a-causin’ trouble… scratched it off near your implanted stubble??? Well.. Sounds just as plausible as every other fairy-tale you’ve spun about your appearance, you complicated, talented fool you. Now come over here and let me shake your hand… Hey, let’s take a look at the skin under your fingernails a minute… Mike? Mike? Why you running off?!?! Miiiike!!”

      Plus – The only time he ever really pushed the whole vitiligo thing (to my recollection) was to cynically and calculatedly enforce what little was left of his visual ethnicity in that God awful Spike Lee video for “They Don’t Really Care About Us”. Which I feel, speaks volumes…

      To this day I’m still confused as to whom “They” and “Us” are?

      Oh and apologies for being this flippant on this thread, it’s not a reflection of my thoughts on Mr. Sneddon.

      • Fudhux

        Yeah thats true . Mj had dark fingernails. Isn’t that weird. They say he had an infection or something. Does anyone know about it ? To me its probably because you can’t bleach that part

        • silverspirit

          You cannot bleach nails to my knowledge. They are constantly growing so I would think that’s totally impossible. I’m so sick of hearing the stupid vitiligo excuse from the rabids. Find me another living soul who bleached themselves white from top to bottom like Jacko did? No, one answers.

          • Fudhux

            Yes , exactly . I don’t get how fans believe he had vitiligo. He bleached his skin .
            Look at his hands in the pictures. Especially the one with princess Diana. And the last one a fan tried to show vitiligo . LOL

          • ShawntayUStay

            You know what’s funny? Fans have said that the reason MJ wore the sequined glove was because he was hiding the vitiligo on his hand — supposedly that’s the first place that it showed up. But, as you can clearly see by the pics you posted, his hands stayed black the longest!

            I also remember seeing a photo of MJ performing “The Way You Make Me Feel” and he of course had the ashy cafe au lait skin on his face that we were used to by that time, but one of his pant legs were rolled up and his leg was chocolate brown and uniform in color. This was probably 1988 or 1989. So I wonder when the “vitiligo” took hold to make him the pale ghost of the early 90s onward? He took his shirt of in one of his home movies — sometime in 1991 or 1992 — and he was completely white. How did he change his color so fast?!

            Reports from 1993 said that MJ was still black from the beltline down and white above the beltline. Even Katherine Jackson said that he was white from the waist up.

          • Fudhux

            Absolutely ShawntayUStay, the photos speak for themselves. Fans contract themselves. They say the vitiligo starts by the hands when MJ’s hands were completely black. They will answer that is makeup . But if you at some photos MJ had white makeup even on his hands ! And they still believe it .

            Yes I saw the photo of the leg when he performed too. No patches. Clearly he would have patches because he was not gonna put makeup on his legs too.

            For the rest of his body I don”t know because he apperead white in the video ” You are not alone “

          • Pea

            Exactly…. when exactly did Jacko’s hands change?

            Look at these photos. According to the website, these were taken in late July 1991 when Jacko was visiting a youth center in L.A.:



            But look at Jacko’s hands in the “Black or White” video, which was released in Nov 1991:


            So, what’s going on here? In the span of a couple months Jacko managed to get his hands completely white? Or is that just “makeup”?

            Then him with Mac Culkin on the set of Black or White. His hands look mottled but vitiligo is bright white spots, not tan little specks:


            During the Bermuda honeymoon with Mac, June 1991:


            Amazing how Michael Jackson had the strangest case of vitiligo that kept his fingernails brown, made him carve up his face and wear silky wigs imitative of a white man, and have biological children that look like they have not one drop of black blood in them…. Heh.

          • Pea

            The pictures I shared above are dated to June and late July 1991 and his hands were evenly brown. In February 1992, while Jacko was visiting various countries in Africa with his Bestest Bed Buddy Brett Barnes (“Quintuple B”, as I’d call him), his hands were white:



            Fans always claim the vitiligo started on the hands, which is not true. I can’t imagine vitiligo taking hold and making his hands totally white in 7 months; but, certainly, viti-LIE-go, aided amply by Arnold Klein’s creams, can work that fast?

          • ShawntayUStay

            So the mottled hands that we saw in the picture with Mac Culkin on the set of Black or White was the interim between the LA “Brown hands” visit and his Africa “white hands” visit?

            And since they are so speckled, could that indicate that the creams were lightening his skin in patches, similar to the look of vitiligo? As you said the fans saw it started on his hands but that clearly isn’t true. Or did he all of a sudden start getting it on his hands in late 1991 and bleached them even toned white by May 1992?

          • Neely

            I’ve only seen one picture that looked like authentic vitiligo, with the remainders appearing to be a poor photoshop image. I saved it but it’s too big to load. Not sure how else to link it.

          • Neely
          • Pea

            Is that the picture, Neely? 🙂 I don’t think that looks like vitiligo on his hand, but more a pixelation artifact. I’ve seen his hands during that time period and they’re brown, like the rest of his body….

            And don’t forget: that was before the following picture, so we know he couldn’t have had vitiligo yet:


          • Neely

            Yes, that’s the pic. I honestly have never seen a pic where the vitiligo looked real. This was the closest I had gotten, and I suspected the timeline might not work, given he had an Afro here. :/

          • ShawntayUStay

            If the picture you showed was authentic vitiligo, it would have been white spots on brown skin. Fans never show that, only brown spots on white skin. Even MJ was very nonspecific about a date; actually, I don’t think he ever gave a date for when the vitiligo started! That’s telling, too. He was bleaching and the creams faded him in patches. Vitiligo was a convenient excuse.

          • Neely

            I’m not sure if I understand what you mean about white on brown vs. brown on white. When I googled pics, I was surprised to find there are actually cases that look like mottling rather than a stark difference in color with very defined borders. Then there is this pic. I think it demonstrates a fairly balanced ratio of color. So, how would one know if it’s brown on white, or white on brown?

          • Pea

            What she means is that because Jacko’s natural skin was brown, she would like to see images of him where there are white patches on his original brown skin. No fan that I know of has been able to show believable images of Jacko with vitiligo coming up on his brown skin, only images of him with brown spots on the white, which could indicate pigment fighting back against the bleach he used.

            My question is: when did he develop the disease he claimed to have? I don’t recall Jacko ever giving a concrete date.

          • Neely

            Ohhhh, that makes sense.
            The only one I ever heard was “sometime after thriller” from the 90s Oprah interview.

          • Neely

            And, what’s going on in this pic?? His face looks horrible, and doesn’t match any other exposed skin. Mud mask gone awry? 🙂

          • Pea

            Poor Michael. It looks like he wasn’t able to find a shade of foundation that matched. 🙂

          • Pea

            That’s what I think: that in June-July 1991, Jacko’s hands were brown; by February 1992 while he was in Africa with Brett Barnes, they were white. If the mottled hands on the set of “Black or White” represented the interim of his bleaching rituals (the video was released November 1991), then it may be evidence that his use of bleaching creams produced patchy skin before a total skin change. (This could also indicate why Jacko’s overall appearance became gradually lighter.

            What also comes to mind is the information from Deborah Linden’s body search affidavit, in which it was stated that Jacko burned himself using bleaching cream on his testicles. Jordie Chandler described his testicles as having pinkish-white patches — I wondered previously about how Jacko could have patches if he didn’t have natural vitiligo. Now, it seems possible that bleaching cream could have produced those patches if that photo of his mottled hands represent the interim of the process.

            Fans use that picture with Mac Culkin as proof of vitiligo, but I don’t think 7 months is much time for natural vitiligo to turn his skin from black to white. Phenolic compounds like monobenzyl ether of hydroquinone can cause vitiligo-like white patches.

          • Neely

            Body search affidavit?? Do tell!! I am a virgin to this information. 🙂

          • Pea

            It’s not publicly available, of course. 🙂 But details can be read in Maureen Orth’s article “Losing His Grip”:

          • Neely

            Thanks Pea. This was an entertaining read, but I really hate it when journalists create a story that is peppered with truth, making it almost impossible to sort out the parts which are fiction, and what is fact. Of course I don’t believe Jacksons nose had fallen off, lol. But, she presents that as fact, and somehow seems to do it with a straight face, as if she herself believes it. Also presenting second and third degree information. This story seemed like it would fit better on the front page of the enquirer. I’m interested in your opinion though. 🙂

            It stirred up a memory about the autopsy that I’d like to also get your opinion on, if I may. The article says an MD claimed Jackson had undergone around 50 plastic surgeries. His autopsy states a scar on either side of his nose, one on either side of the posterior base of his neck (if I remember right), and one behind each ear. That doesn’t equate to 50 surgeries in my mind. I have wondered if the masses consider Botox and restylane injections a form of plastic surgery? Seems like he got those almost daily. Thoughts?

          • Pea

            Excellent showing of the hands photos. When did he get vitiligo? When did it start?

            All I know is that any claims that it started before the picture below — and I’ve seen fans claim it started when he was a kid and in the 1970s — are complete lies:


        • ShawntayUStay

          Yes, you can’t bleach nails because they are made of the same stuff as horns and antlers — really tough keratin. That’s why toenail fungus takes months to years to treat because medicine needs time to penetrate the nail. His nails are a dead giveaway that he was bleaching some and/or all of his hands. He still had pigment in the nail and in the skin under the nail. I’ve seen pics of dark skinned vitiligo sufferers who had it on their hands and their nails are pink with white surrounding skin — just as you’d expect from someone with no pigment.

          Real vitiligo hands:


          • Fudhux

            Viti- LIE – go haha you made me laugh . I love it so true

          • Mahoney

            Ha… I’m stealing that viti-lie-go line!

          • Neely

            I read on pubmed last night, a couple of case studies where a man presented with dark discolored fingernails during the use of hydroquinone cream. (One had been using it for 9 months). Upon cessation, within 8 weeks, the darkness in the fingernails disappeared. So apparently, Jacksons nails were dark from exposure to the cream. Oh the irony…while bleaching his skin, he was staining his nails……giving the world a telltale sign that he was doing so.

          • ShawntayUStay

            Oh yes. It’s true that the use of hydroquinone can cause hyperpigmentation, particularly in patients with dark skin; it’s called ochronosis. That’s why doctors say you shouldn’t use hydroquinone for more than three months at a time. Ochronosis is permanent. That’s definitely likely MJ suffered from that because he was practically bathing in bleach. I’ve also wondered if the little Brown spots on his body that never seemed to go away were because of bleaching induced hyperpigmentation, and not vitiligo?

        • Mahoney

          It’s clearly because he couldn’t change them. Surprised he never used nail polish, I mean… The dude wasn’t exactly averse to using make-up was he?

          The white plasters (band aids?) that he started to stick on the tips of his digits was always another odd giveaway. Talk about hanging a lantern on it!!

          Good pics of his hands and very telling, hopefully some (I refuse to use the term f’loons) of MJ’s more rabid defenders get a hold of them and digitally alter them (poorly) to fit their narrative.

          Which leads me to another point, can we all agree that there is another victim here? That being Adobe Creative Suite…. Specifically Photoshop.

          The things these fans do with this beautiful tool in honour of their idol is utterly heart-wrenching.

          I’ve been a graphic designer for many a year and I’ve never ever seen such hideous usage of blur/crop/texture tools and don’t get me started on the the fonts… Dear Gaaaahhhd!

          I’m here to offer an olive-branch to these people, you can get help… I will happily share my knowledge of marrying images with text in an aesthetically pleasing fashion… It’s not too late!

          Again though, my issue isn’t that he did it, it’s his body… It’s the gibberish explanations he gave to explain it… Expecting everyone to buy it. I guess it’s the product of being surrounded by yes-men most of your life?

          “What more can I give?”

          Good question Mike, how about a plausible explanation every so often?

  • CandyC

    You should check out pictures of him with Madonna at the Oscars in early 1991 and compare that to pictures of him from late 1991 — the difference is vast. The photo attached was taken in the BTS of Black or White, notice how pigmented his hand is in comparison to his face? Fans like to point out that’s it’s proof of vitiligo but that is not how vitiligo works. I stick to the opinion that if he did have vitiligo it was induced from his bleaching.

    He did look good in that video (Black or White) and the making of it, more “natural” in appearance than say when he started to warp into what Madonna described, paraphrased — “A transvestite space alien” (she’s mean, lol).

    And you’re so right, only a few months later, in early 1992, he was ivory pale. He is interesting to study, with what was his endless transformation.

    Very good point about him neglecting to be a spokesperson or educator etc on vitiligo especially since it’s such a rare condition. I always found it extremely strange and interesting that he always brought up the line “What about the people that sit in the sun and try to become other than what they are, trying to look black?” in defence of himself, whenever an interviewer dared to ask him on his change in appearance.

    Why compare something that people do everyday that is so cosmetic to an exotic skin disease that very few people have? In my opinion that is a very interesting clue about his true feelings regarding us natural skin tone, if you analyse it. No one else I know of has made that connection.

    • Fudhux

      Mj did not like being black or being connected to black people to me . And I feel like you can prove that just by looking at his kids. They are all not black . Why ? He could have had his own kids bit they would look biracial ( of course because he married only white woman ) . The worst thing is that he made people believe that they were his own . And there is even worse than that : some of his fans actually still believe that !!

      Total different subject but does someone know about the next step in Wade’s case ? Thank you .

      • CandyC

        I agree with you, the whole attending the Soul Train Awards and NAACP awards was a farce, I’ve always thought he was a good liar… just not consistent. Fans like to deny that he disliked being black by using the fact he used black people in his videos etc as “proof” — but unfortunately they were just apart of public relations scheme. As much as I honestly wish he liked his own race I just find it unlikely.

        He was fortunate he was famous, if he wasn’t he would be viewed in a completely different way and people would never be so apologetic of his behaviours.

    • ShawntayUStay

      You know what’s interesting is that the whole “what about people who tan — are they trying to be black/do they hate their race?” argument is often given by other people that are trying to bleach their pigment away when they are confronted. There are forums dedicated to skin bleaching for “cosmetic” purposes. So MJ’s repeating of this is quite typical. But getting a tan — which is just a natural consequence of going outside, and the color is natural in the sense that you can only get as dark as genetics allow — is not the same as artificially removing color. These bleachers — and MJ — never ask themselves why they’d want to be light when they are naturally dark. You only want to be light because you think dark is bad or ugly. MJ wanted “flawless porcelain skin”.

      • Pea

        The fact of the matter is that Jacko’s use of Benoquin, or “monobenzyl ether of hydroquinone (MBEH)”, is highly suspect, given his evasive answers about his skin. MBEH can be used to treat patients with “universal vitiligo”, i.e. having greater than 50% white patches vs darker skin left, but it’s efficacy is such that 1 in 2 have “relapses” and the formerly pigmented areas become re-pigmented. This means that they would have to use it forever to keep all-white.

        Also, though, MBEH can trigger vitiligo, ie melanocytes die and disappear, leaving white patches. Now, if we are to believe that Jacko had vitiligo, it’s highly likely that he could’ve triggered it with his use of MBEH. It’s also possible that Jacko’s lupus triggered depigmentation, he was intrigued by the white spot, and took it to a sick level by bleaching everything white using MBEH, thereby triggering vitiligo in other regions.

        That latter explanation could explain why a swatch of skin studied in his autopsy was pigmentless but still had melanocytes.

        In sum, I am very confident that no matter whether he used bleach without having vitiligo, used bleach after getting a localized vitiliginous spot, or had vitiligo, all of it is related to his use of bleaching creams. He hated being black. Those white and Latino children he claimed were his own and his carved up face prove it.

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